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03/07/2001 09:07 AM Senate FIN

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                     SENATE FINANCE COMMITTEE                                                                                 
                          March 07, 2001                                                                                      
                              9:07 AM                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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CALL TO ORDER                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Pete  Kelly convened the  meeting at approximately  9:07 AM                                                            
                                                                                                                                
PRESENT                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Pete Kelly, Co-Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Lyda Green                                                                                                              
Senator Gary Wilken                                                                                                             
Senator Alan Austerman                                                                                                          
Senator Lyman Hoffman                                                                                                           
Senator Loren Leman                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Also Attending:  KEVIN  BROOKS, Director, Division of Administrative                                                          
Services,   Department   of   Fish   and   Game;   MICHAEL   NIZICH,                                                            
Administrative   Director,  Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Office of the Governor;  GAIL FENUMIAI, Election Program Specialist,                                                            
Division  of Election,  Office of  the Lieutenant  Governor;  REMOND                                                            
HENDERSON,   Director,   Division   of   Administrative    Services,                                                            
Department  of  Labor  and  Workforce  Development;   JANET  CLARKE,                                                            
Director, Division of Administrative  Services, Department of Health                                                            
& Social Services;  MATT ANDERSON,  Emergency Medical Services  Unit                                                            
Manager, Community  Health Program, Department of  Health and Social                                                            
Services                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SUMMARY INFORMATION                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SB 29 - APPROP: GOVERNOR'S CAPITAL BUDGET                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
The Committee  heard presentations  from the Department of  Fish and                                                            
Game,  the Office  of  the Governor,  the  Department  of Labor  and                                                            
Workforce  Development,  and the  Department  of Health  and  Social                                                            
Services on specific budget requests.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     SENATE BILL NO. 29                                                                                                         
     "An Act making  capital appropriations and capitalizing  funds;                                                            
     making appropriations  under art. IX, sec. 17(c),  Constitution                                                            
     of the State of Alaska,  from the constitutional budget reserve                                                            
     fund; and providing for an effective date."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Department of Fish and Game                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
KEVIN  BROOKS,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department of  Fish and Game, informed the Committee  that the dozen                                                            
capital budget  projects he is presenting total approximately  $15.5                                                            
million.  He said that of  this total amount,  $13.2 million,  or 85                                                            
percent, are federal  funds and approximately $1.575  million, or 10                                                            
percent, are general funds.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Statewide Facilities Repair, Maintenance, and Replacement                                                                  
     $500,000  General Fund                                                                                                     
     Reference  No.:  30128                                                                                                     
     AP/AL:   Appropriation                                                                                                     
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This project will provide for repair, maintenance and                                                                      
     renovation of department facilities statewide.                                                                             
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks informed the  Committee this capital budget project is an                                                            
annual  request  to  fund  maintenance  and  repairs  on  facilities                                                            
ranging  from bunkhouses  to  warehouses  to laboratories,  in  over                                                            
forty  locations  throughout   the  state.  He  commented  that  the                                                            
Department of Fish and  Game has identified approximately $3 million                                                            
of deferred maintenance  needs and these projects are the portion of                                                            
those projects identified for this fiscal year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
      Vessel and Aircraft Repair, Maintenance and Replacement                                                                   
     $600,000  General Fund                                                                                                     
     Reference  No.:  30129                                                                                                     
     AP/AL:   Appropriation                                                                                                     
     Project Type:  Renovation and Remodeling                                                                                   
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2000 - 06/30/2005                                                                          
     This project will provide funding to maintain the department's                                                             
     research vessels and aircraft, which are used to support                                                                   
     fishery  monitoring  efforts  and  stock  assessment  programs.                                                            
     Maintenance  work to  be done includes  replacing the  gensets,                                                            
     sandblast  and paint, overhaul  engines, general yard  work and                                                            
     inspection,  and replacing fishing  gear and aircraft  manuals.                                                            
     Additional  funding in FY2002  will be used to replace  the R/V                                                            
     Sundance,  along with revenues  generated from the sale  of the                                                            
     vessel.                                                                                                                    
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks stated  the  Department  has five  large  vessels and  a                                                            
number of aircraft involved  primarily in the Division of Commercial                                                            
Fisheries.  He stressed the  importance of  keeping these crafts  in                                                            
good,  safe working  order for  the protection  of the Department's                                                             
employees.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  informed that  $300,000 of this  $600,000 request  is to                                                            
purchase a used vessel  to replace an existing vessel, the Sundance.                                                            
He noted these  specified general  funds would be combined  with the                                                            
proceeds generated from  the sale of the Sundance for this purchase.                                                            
He shared that  the Department has  completed survey work  on making                                                            
the necessary  repairs to the Sundance  and has determined  that the                                                            
cost of repairs exceeds the benefits.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman  inquired  as  to the  anticipated  total  cost  of                                                            
replacement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks responded  that  the  Department  anticipates  combining                                                            
$300,000  general funds  with approximately  $250,000 expected  from                                                            
the sale  of the Sundance  to purchase a  replacement vessel  in the                                                            
price range of  between $500,000 and $600,000. He  informed that the                                                            
costs to make repairs on the Sundance would exceed $600,000.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green asked where the Sundance is deployed.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  replied the Sundance is  stationed in Southeast  Alaska.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Dock Repair, Maintenance & Replacement Phase 2                                                                             
     $300,000 General Fund                                                                                                      
     Reference No.:  6916                                                                                                       
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  King Salmon                                                                                                     
     Election District:  Aleutians                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     The  FY2001 CIP Budget  provided $250.0  of a requested  $375.0                                                            
     for   repair,  maintenance   and  replacement   of   waterfront                                                            
     facilities at the  Department's King Salmon facility.  Phase II                                                            
     funding  will complete the King  Salmon project and  begin work                                                            
     on the Cordova dock.                                                                                                       
     Phased project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks reported  that Phase One of this project  began in FY 01.                                                            
He informed  that the Department  has identified  docks in  Cordova,                                                            
King Salmon and Petersburg as needing significant repair.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Black River Sonar - Chignik area, Upper Aleutian Peninsula                                                                 
     $175,000  General Fund                                                                                                     
     Reference  No.:  34004                                                                                                     
     AP/AL:   Appropriation                                                                                                     
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Natural Resources                                                                                               
     Location:  Kodiak                                                                                                          
     Election District:  Kodiak                                                                                                 
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This CIP  will purchase modern split-beam, side-scanning  sonar                                                            
     (SSS)  equipment  and  provide for  technical  assistance  with                                                            
     final  site  selection and  training.   Direct  enumeration  of                                                            
     salmon  migrating  up  the  Black  River, in  addition  to  the                                                            
     existing  counting weir in the  Chignik River, is the  only way                                                            
     to accurately  distinguish the  relative escapement  of the two                                                            
     runs  of sockeye  to  the Chignik  system.   Sonar  provides  a                                                            
     technically feasible  and advanced method for such enumeration,                                                            
     and  avoids  many of  the staffing,  logistic  and maintenance                                                             
     difficulties  of constructing and operating a  separate weir in                                                            
     this remote location.                                                                                                      
     One time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  said the Chignik River  is "referred to as an  indicator                                                            
stream." He  stated there is currently  a weir on the river  and the                                                            
addition of  sonar equipment would  enable the Department  to better                                                            
manage the river's significant sockeye salmon runs.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  inquired  if  the  current  system  being  used  is                                                            
deficient.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  replied that  the  weir  system  is not  deficient  and                                                            
actually does a good job,  but because there are two separate salmon                                                            
runs on  the river, the  addition of sonar  equipment in a  location                                                            
downstream from the weir,  would allow the Department to monitor the                                                            
stocks at  two different  locations. He informed  this would  enable                                                            
biologists  to do a  better job  of distinguishing  between the  two                                                            
runs and monitoring the fish stocks.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked for verification  that the Chignik  River is a                                                            
"huge fishery."                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks replied that  it is. He told the Committee the Department                                                            
had installed  a similar system on the Copper River  the prior year,                                                            
and  the weir/sonar  system  has  been helpful  in  determining  the                                                            
harvests taken  on the river between the two points  and how quickly                                                            
the fish move up the river.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman noted  this project is in the election district of                                                            
Kodiak and asked if the Chignik project is managed from Kodiak.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks replied that it is.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  commented that Chignik is not part  of the Kodiak                                                            
election district.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks replied that  is correct, but it is a practical matter to                                                            
manage Chignik out of Kodiak.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks stated that  of the twelve projects being presented, only                                                            
four projects require general funds.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Sport  Fishing  and  Recreational  Boating  Public  Access  and                                                            
     Facility Development                                                                                                       
     $1,600,000                                                                                                                 
          $1,200,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                           
          $400,000 Fish/Game                                                                                                    
     Reference No.:  30432                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This project  provides authority to the Division  of Sport Fish                                                            
     to  receive federal  funding  for construction  of boating  and                                                            
     sport  fishing access  facilities  throughout  the state.   The                                                            
     Federal Aid to Sport  Fish Restoration Act requires that 15% of                                                            
     the federal  funds available  to Sport Fish be used  for public                                                            
     boating access  development.  Federal funds are  matched with a                                                            
     25% contribution  of Fish and  Game funds to the total  project                                                            
     cost.                                                                                                                      
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  informed the  Committee  this  annual  project  request                                                            
fulfills  the federal aid  program requirement  that the  Department                                                            
set  aside 15  percent  of the  allocated  funds for  public  access                                                            
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  supplied  copies of the  public access  projects  to the                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  asked  if these  funds  would  revert back  to  the                                                            
federal government if not used.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks responded  that they would, but clarified  that the state                                                            
has  three years  to  use the  funds  before  that would  occur.  He                                                            
continued  that Alaska, California,  and Texas  receive the  maximum                                                            
federal funding  allowed for these types of projects  because of the                                                            
states' large sizes.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks commented  that the federal funds for the  following four                                                            
salmon research projects  have been appropriated to the state as the                                                            
result  of efforts  of  United  States Senator  Stevens  to  address                                                            
specific fishery  concerns. Mr. Brooks  informed that each  of these                                                            
projects   has  operating   components,  but   the  Department   has                                                            
determined  it is important  to establish three  to five year  plans                                                            
with these funds  because of the importance of developing  long-term                                                            
fish   stock  research;   therefore,   these  projects   have   been                                                            
established in the capital  budget. He continued that another reason                                                            
the funding  is  in the  capital budget  is because  the  Department                                                            
might not  receive equal  funding increments  that would fit  easily                                                            
into the operating  budget; therefore, the funds are  reflected as a                                                            
lump sum.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Norton Sound Salmon Research Initiatives                                                                                   
     $5,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  33999                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Natural Resources                                                                                               
     Location:  Nome                                                                                                            
     Election District:  Nome, Lower Yukon                                                                                      
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     The Federal Government will provide the department funding for                                                             
     research in the Norton Sound region to investigate management                                                              
     issues and declining salmon populations in this area.                                                                      
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  informed  that  Norton  Sound  has  "very demonstrated                                                             
failures in some  fisheries." He informed that coho,  pink, and chum                                                            
salmon  stocks  have been  depressed,  and  the Department  needs  a                                                            
better understanding  of what is causing this to occur.  He stressed                                                            
there has not  been general funds  available to devote to  the study                                                            
of this area,  and these federal funds  would enable the  Department                                                            
to do the necessary research.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly asked if  the operating portion  of this request  is                                                            
also federal funds.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks replied  yes, it is federal. He stated  that any staffing                                                            
positions  involved  in this  research  would  be reflected  in  the                                                            
operating budget.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman asked for  clarification that this work is research,                                                            
without any restoration efforts of any stocks.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  detailed the  nine components of  the research  work and                                                            
cited  these components  include such  things  as out-migration  and                                                            
survival  numbers. He  stressed this  information  would assist  the                                                            
Department  in its goal  of "restoring  those stocks  to a  strength                                                            
where people can go back out and fish them."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  Mr. Brooks  for  a timeline  in getting  the                                                            
stocks strong enough to support a renewed fishery.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  responded  that  this  five-year  $5  million  research                                                            
project would  provide the  Department enough  time to develop  good                                                            
information  regarding  the various  fisheries  in  the region  from                                                            
"stream to out-migration to getting some returns back."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  stated if  there is no fishery  restoration  to the                                                            
present stocks  during this timeframe,  "it is conceivable  that the                                                            
people up in Norton  Sound region may not see chum  salmon since the                                                            
life is about three years, for eight to ten years from now."                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks replied  that he could not really respond  to that as the                                                            
focus of  this project  is to  give the Department  the information                                                             
needed to find  out what it going on with the fishery.  He continued                                                            
that if the fishery  reaches sustainable yields, it  would be opened                                                            
back up to commercial fisheries.  He said that the Department shares                                                            
the same concerns as those of Senator Hoffman.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken stressed  that the results of this $5 million project                                                            
be pertinent  and useful. He also  noted the lack of involvement  of                                                            
any fish research  component of the  University of Alaska  and asked                                                            
how the University might be involved in the project.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken cited  the need for  the Department  to provide  the                                                            
Committee a pro  forma defining what the end product  is going to be                                                            
in each of the  nine components detailed in this request  as well as                                                            
what the staffing,  equipment needs, and structures  would be before                                                            
the project begins.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  inquired if  any of the work  detailed in the  Norton                                                            
Sound  Salmon  Environmental  Baseline  Monitoring  section  of  the                                                            
summary is currently being  done by another state or federal agency,                                                            
and if that work might be "farmed out to somebody."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  stated that normally the  Department would use  existing                                                            
expertise;  however, he  reiterated,  Norton Sound  is an area  that                                                            
"has not been the recipient of a lot of the effort."                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks continued  that  an important  part of  juvenile  salmon                                                            
survival is water flow  from snowmelt and runoff, and the Department                                                            
has some of this information  available in the its Habitat Division.                                                            
He informed that other  sources also have useful information, and he                                                            
stressed  that the  Department  is not  looking to  replicate  other                                                            
Departments' efforts.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks,  responding to previous  comments about the involvement                                                             
of  the   University   of  Alaska,   stated   the  Department   does                                                            
collaborative   projects   with   the  University   and   uses   the                                                            
University's  fisheries  expertise  often.  He  continued  that  the                                                            
project  in Norton Sound  is in  cooperation with  the local  Native                                                            
groups,  the  Bering  Sea  Fisherman's  Association,   Norton  Sound                                                            
Economic Development Council and other people in the area.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks informed  that the Department has negotiated  an overhead                                                            
rate of approximately 10  percent with the federal government and as                                                            
a rule, charges 6 percent  on federal contracts even though the rate                                                            
could be  higher. He stressed  that the Department  strives  to keep                                                            
overhead rates to a minimal  in order to have most of the funding go                                                            
to the research project.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks said  the  equipment  replacements  referred  to in  the                                                            
summary  include "such  things as wear  and tear on  a weir or  on a                                                            
skiff or on an engine."  He said the Department would provide a list                                                            
of equipment items to the Committee.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Wilken  commented   that  Mr.   Brooks  acknowledged   the                                                            
University  has "a repository of knowledge"  but it does  not appear                                                            
that the University is involved in this project.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  responded  that he does  not know  the specifics  of the                                                            
University's involvement, and he would look into this.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Wilken  responded that it  would be "perfectly appropriate"                                                             
to have  the University's  research abilities  used to the  "maximum                                                            
extent."                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman voiced  that all research  projects conducted  by                                                            
the Department of Fish  and Game and the University of Alaska should                                                            
be analyzed to see what projects could be coordinated.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  stated there has been  "a lot of focus on research  this                                                            
session,"  and he  agreed it  is a "real  and  important issue."  He                                                            
commented; however,  that it would take a full-time  person to track                                                            
all the  projects  that are  going on and  the question  is "are  we                                                            
going to spend  our resources tracking projects or  doing the work."                                                            
He concurred  that the Department  does not want to "duplicate  work                                                            
and wants to  "address the gaps that  occur," but the process  needs                                                            
to be "done in  a manner that would not take away  from the research                                                            
efforts." He  said the Department  would put together a list  of the                                                            
projects it is  conducting, and he detailed the variety  of projects                                                            
that have received research grants.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green noted that  the fourth  paragraph on  page 15  of the                                                            
project summary  states "this  research initiative  be funded  for a                                                            
minimum  of   five  years  and  consideration   then  be   given  to                                                            
continuation   in  order   to  acquire   a  meaningful  information                                                             
baseline." She asked if  this means this project would be continuing                                                            
after the  initial five years  outlined in  this request, and  if so                                                            
what funding based would be implemented.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  responded that the Department  does not do any  of these                                                            
projects  with the expectation  of using  general funds, but  rather                                                            
the Department  uses  a "project-based  budget with  start, end  and                                                            
complete dates." He continued  that at the end of five years, if the                                                            
Department found  more information was needed, the  Department would                                                            
submit a proposal  to the federal  government or to "this  Committee                                                            
if the project were pressing enough."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  insisted the  Department "does  not want to give  anyone                                                            
the impression  this is as ongoing project," and affirmed  there are                                                            
no  plans for  additional  funding  in five  years.  He stated  this                                                            
wording was an  "attempt to fully disclose possibilities  that could                                                            
result from this  effort and not a prerequisite that  there would be                                                            
plans for additional funding in five years."                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  commented he believes  that part of the  purpose of                                                            
this federal grant is to  provide local hire, and, at the same time,                                                            
use  the  research  to  help  get  the  commercial   fishery  stocks                                                            
"sufficiently  reestablished" to provide for long-term  jobs for the                                                            
people in Norton  Sound. He stated this is the reasoning  behind his                                                            
earlier questions about the restoration of stocks in the region.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Nearshore Fisheries Research and Assessment                                                                                
     $1,798,100 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  34003                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Natural Resources                                                                                               
     Location:  Southeast Alaska                                                                                                
     Election District:  Districts 1-6                                                                                          
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     These  funds will  enable the  Department of  Fish and Game  to                                                            
     conduct  stock assessments  and biological  research needed  to                                                            
     develop fishery  management plans that provide  for sustainable                                                            
     fisheries   on  previously  unexploited   r  lightly-exploited                                                             
     stocks.    Funds cover  reconnaissance  surveys  on  relatively                                                            
     unexploited  nearshore resources  such as geoduck clams,  black                                                            
     rockfish,  sea  cucumbers,  and  sea  urchins.    Funding  also                                                            
     investigates key productivity  parameters needed to sustain on-                                                            
     going  fisheries such as shrimp,  Dungeness crab, scallop,  and                                                            
     other nearshore resources.                                                                                                 
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  voiced this  is  the  second year  the  Department  has                                                            
received  federal  funds,  again  with  the  assistance  of  Senator                                                            
Stevens,  to  develop  fisheries  in  the one  to  three  mile  zone                                                            
nearshore fisheries  areas. These  fisheries usually "involve  small                                                            
boats and  target species  that haven't been  exploited in  the past                                                            
such as shrimp and scallops."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  reaffirmed that this was the second  year of this                                                            
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks responded yes.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked  if a report was available detailing how the                                                            
first year funding had been used and the project results.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks responded  the  Department could  provide  year to  date                                                            
reports regarding the first year funding efforts.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman declared  that the Legislature has been addressing                                                            
the nearshore fishery situation  for six years, and he felt there is                                                            
a need, especially  going into the second year of  these studies, to                                                            
see what the overall picture is.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  remarked   this  has  been  a  concern  of  Senator                                                            
Austerman's for quite some time.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  acknowledged  what Senator  Austerman  was  saying  and                                                            
stated that if the Department  does not know what the stocks are, it                                                            
"could not responsibly  open up a fishery." He said  the "Department                                                            
has not,  until  recently, been  able to  get funds  to conduct  the                                                            
necessary projects,"  but these federal  funds would enable  them to                                                            
proceed. He said  the project is a "response to some  of those pleas                                                            
to get more information  on this type of fishery so  that people can                                                            
get out  and harvest  some  of these  fisheries."  He stressed  this                                                            
project is  "part and parcel of the  bigger picture" the  Department                                                            
is trying to accomplish.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Snow Crab Fishery Disaster Research                                                                                        
     $1,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  34000                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Natural Resources                                                                                               
     Location:  Kodiak                                                                                                          
     Election District:  Kodiak                                                                                                 
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     These  funds will  assist the  Department of  Fish and Game  to                                                            
     collect  much-needed biological  information on the  Bering Sea                                                            
     snow crab  stock that declined  sharply in the past  few years.                                                            
     Results  will  be integrating  both  into modeling  studies  to                                                            
     understand stock fluctuations  and into new management plans to                                                            
     foster   stock  rebuilding  and   reduced  chances   of  future                                                            
     collapses.                                                                                                                 
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks informed  that  the Bering  Sea  snow crab  fishery  has                                                            
declined  dramatically  in the  past few  years. He  noted that  the                                                            
"crab fishery  is technically  managed by  the federal government,"                                                             
but the state  works collaboratively with the federal  government in                                                            
the  nearshore  areas.  He  stated  the  Department  receives  these                                                            
federal funds  to complement the federal  troll surveys in  order to                                                            
better determine  how the crab stocks  are doing. He continued  that                                                            
the Department uses these  funds to address some of the research and                                                            
information gaps with the goal of managing a sustainable yield.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  stated  that fisheries have  cycles and  that the                                                            
habitual labeling  of declining stocks as "disasters"  does not seem                                                            
appropriate.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly  agreed that  the  use of  the term  "disasters"  is                                                            
becoming  popular, and he  detailed several  examples of  situations                                                            
being referred to as disasters.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green  asked if  the  wording on  page  20 of  the  summary                                                            
information  is to  establish how  the Department  would be  working                                                            
with the different  entities to gather  pertinent information  or if                                                            
it is to develop a spending plan with those groups.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  responded that  the Department  is "looking at  a three-                                                            
year project working  with these groups to accomplish  the project."                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator   Green  acknowledged   that  the   summary  specified   the                                                            
Department would  be working with the various groups  "to accomplish                                                            
the projects."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  addressed   Senator  Austerman's  comment   on  fishery                                                            
"cycles"  and stressed  the  Department is  aware  of the  different                                                            
cycles for  different fisheries, but  expressed that snow  crabs are                                                            
experiencing some serious problems beyond a cyclical event.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked how many snow crab biologists  the state of                                                            
Alaska has.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks replied that  he would supply that information to Senator                                                            
Austerman.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  noted that  most  of the  snow crab  fishery  is                                                            
conducted  outside  of  the  three-mile  limit  in  federal  waters,                                                            
although the state  of Alaska has accepted responsibility  for those                                                            
fisheries.  He reiterated that it  would be interesting to  know how                                                            
many  biologists  have  been  working on  snow  crab  projects,  and                                                            
commented that  by labeling the decline  a 'disaster', the  state is                                                            
able to get federal funds.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Wilken asked  for  confirmation  that this  million  dollar                                                            
three-year project would not "roll into a general fund project."                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  confirmed  this is  a three-year  project. He  disclosed                                                            
that  the  Department  is  currently  experiencing   a  shortage  of                                                            
biologists.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly expressed  support for  the Department  of Fish  and                                                            
Game's project-based budget approach.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  if there is  a plan for  how to rebuild  the                                                            
snow crab stocks.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks responded that  the "intent of this project is to come up                                                            
with  a  plan"  to  offset  the  "boom  and  bust"  cycles  that  is                                                            
experienced in these fisheries.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman remarked  that the  Department  of Fish and  Game                                                            
received a lot  of state funding for research before  and during the                                                            
days of oil  revenues, but as oil  revenues declined, general  funds                                                            
for the Department of Fish  and Game budget were cut. He opined this                                                            
is "reflected  in  the inability  of the  Department  to manage  its                                                            
fisheries."  He continued that now  that the Department of  Fish and                                                            
Game is starting  to get federal dollars  for research, these  funds                                                            
would  enable  the  Department  to  begin  conducting  some  of  the                                                            
necessary research the fisheries need.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Log Transfer Facility Research and Remediation                                                                             
     $700,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                  
     Reference No.:  34113                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Natural Resources                                                                                               
     Location:  Southeast Alaska                                                                                                
     Election District:  Districts 1-6                                                                                          
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This  project  will  identify  the  feasibility   of  restoring                                                            
     priority  Log  Transfer  Facility  sites.   This  project  will                                                            
     assess estuarine  and nearshore marine habitats  where bark has                                                            
     accumulated   at   log  transfer   and   probable  restoration                                                             
     techniques.                                                                                                                
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks informed  that  these  federal  funds would  enable  the                                                            
Department to  conduct research in estuaries and nearshore  habitats                                                            
where  bark  is  deposited.  He said  the  research  is  to  provide                                                            
information  on ways  to remediate  those sites  by such methods  as                                                            
dredging or capping  the deposits in order to foster  development of                                                            
resident species.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Wildlife Habitat Management in Interior Alaska                                                                             
     $100,000 Fish/Game                                                                                                         
     Reference No.:  33994                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Renewal and Replacement                                                                                     
     Category:  Natural Resources                                                                                               
     Location:  Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                              
     Election District:  Fairbanks Areawide                                                                                     
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Improve  habitat  quality  for  wildlife  through  the  use  of                                                            
     prescribed  fires, felling  of mature  aspen and birch  groves,                                                            
     and  thinning  of  trees   in mature   forest  to  promote  re-                                                            
     vegetation.   Past wildland fire  suppression efforts,  current                                                            
     fire protection needs  near valuable properties, and relatively                                                            
     modest  timber harvests  have resulted  in reduced amounts  and                                                            
     distribution of early  to mid-growth forest which are essential                                                            
     components  of diverse productive wildlife habitats.   Projects                                                            
     using these habitat  enhancement activities have been conducted                                                            
     and/or  planned for Thomas Bay  (north of Petersburg),  Trapper                                                            
     Creek (Palmer Area),  Tanana Flats (Fairbanks area), and Nenana                                                            
     Ridge (ruffed grouse project).                                                                                             
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks stated this project involves Department of Fish and Game                                                             
funds to promote moose habitat with the primary tool being                                                                      
prescribed burns.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Equipment Replacement for Wildlife Conservation Programs                                                                   
     $100,000 Fish/Game                                                                                                         
     Reference No.:  33995                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Equipment                                                                                                   
     Category:  Natural Resources                                                                                               
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Wildlife    Conservation   has   deferred   needed    equipment                                                            
     replacement and maintenance  for several years in order to more                                                            
     fully  fund  management  and research  programs  necessary  for                                                            
     responsible  resource  management.    Division  staff  are  now                                                            
     utilizing  outdated and  inadequate equipment.   In some  cases                                                            
     this  outdated equipment  is no longer  safe or reliable  under                                                            
     normal  field  use.   Equipment to  be purchased  includes  two                                                            
     boat/motor   combinations   (Petersburg   and   the   statewide                                                            
     waterfowl  management  program),  three  snowmachines  (Bethel,                                                            
     Barrow and  McGrath), and one replacement 4x4  pickup truck for                                                            
     the Soldotna office.                                                                                                       
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks   relayed  this   project  is   a  scheduled   equipment                                                            
replacement for  some "antiquated equipment" such  as snow machines,                                                            
boat  and motor  combinations,  and  other  standard  equipment  the                                                            
Department uses.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Katchemak   Bay   Research  Reserve   Facilities   Design   and                                                            
     Construction                                                                                                               
     $3,500,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  6388                                                                                                       
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Homer                                                                                                           
     Election District:  Homer                                                                                                  
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Final   phase  of  construction   of  research  and   education                                                            
     facilities  for the  Kachemak Bay National  Estuarine  Research                                                            
     Reserve.                                                                                                                   
     Phased project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks informed  this  is the  third and  final  phase of  this                                                            
federally funded "good" project.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked  about the extent of the freshwater research                                                            
the facility would be conducting.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  replied that  this  facility  would  be located  in  an                                                            
estuarine   coastal   environment   where   you  would   have   some                                                            
freshwater/saltwater mixture.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  inquired  if  beluga  whale  research  would  be                                                            
conducted at this facility.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks  responded  that  beluga whale  research  would  not  be                                                            
conducted at  this facility; however,  other Department of  Fish and                                                            
Game projects do address that research.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Office of the Governor                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Pacific Salmon Treaty                                                                                                      
     $18,000,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                               
     Reference No.:  AMD33647                                                                                                   
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Development                                                                                                     
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     The federal fiscal  year 2000 (FY00) appropriations legislation                                                            
     established   a  Pacific  Coastal  Salmon  Recovery   Fund  and                                                            
     appropriated  a total of $58  million for the states  of Alaska                                                            
     (Southeast  Sustainable  Salmon Fund),  Washington, Oregon  and                                                            
     California,  as  well  as  the treaty  fishing  tribes  in  the                                                            
     Pacific  Northwest.   Coordination of  the fund is through  the                                                            
     respective  Governor's  offices.   The  Alaska  portion of  the                                                            
     federal FY00  appropriation was $14 million and  is expected to                                                            
     be $18 million in federal FY01.                                                                                            
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  stated this federal money  has been designated  for four                                                            
Pacific states;  Washington, Oregon, California and  Alaska, as well                                                            
as  some Northwest  treaty  tribes  to help  establish  programs  to                                                            
address endangered  species concerns.  He informed that prior  funds                                                            
of this nature assisted  such projects as the Crystal Lake Hatchery.                                                            
He continued  that the  money is geared  toward "sustainable  salmon                                                            
stocks as they  migrate throughout this range along  the four states                                                            
on the West Coast."                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly asked what the goal of this funding is.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks responded  that the purposes of the funds  are for salmon                                                            
habitat restoration,  salmon stock enhancement, salmon  research and                                                            
implementation of the Pacific salmon treaty.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked why this project  is in the governor's  budget                                                            
and not in the Department of Fish and Game budget.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks responded that  it is in the governor's budget because at                                                            
the federal level, it is  being referred to as "the governors fund".                                                            
He continued  that the fund could  have come through the  Department                                                            
of Fish  and Game  budget; however,  because of  the breadth  of the                                                            
focus  and  to be  consistent  with  the federal  directive,  it  is                                                            
submitted in the governor's budget.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman   commented  this   project's  detail  information                                                             
specifies the  establishment of an Alaska marine science  endowment.                                                            
He asked if any  of these dollars are going to this  endowment or if                                                            
it is just a concept.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  replied  he is not  aware of  any of  these funds  being                                                            
designated  for an  endowment,  but he  would confirm  that for  the                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  stated this project  should be in the  Department                                                            
of Fish and Game budget.  He read from the project's "Benchmarks for                                                            
application  of the salmon fund in  State fiscal year 2002"  section                                                            
that  includes  seven  items  such  as  amending  the state-federal                                                             
Memorandum of Understanding on Salmon Research.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SFC 01 # 32, Side B 09:54 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman questioned  what  the project's  request for  $18                                                            
million  would be  used for  since "only  two of  these seven  major                                                            
issues"  specifies  any  significant   expenditure  of  funds.    He                                                            
stressed  he would like  to see more  of these  types of reports  as                                                            
they clearly  specify  how money's  would be spent,  in addition  to                                                            
detailing an overall plan.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  reiterated  the need to  manage all the  research                                                            
dollars  that  come  into  the  state  and  coordinate  the  various                                                            
programs  between different  state  entities. He  continued that  it                                                            
might take one  full-time person to figure out how  many millions of                                                            
research  dollars  are  being  invested  in  the  state.  He  voiced                                                            
frustration  that no one could tell  the Legislators whether  any of                                                            
these funds are being coordinated.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  voiced agreement  that this is  a significant amount  of                                                            
money  for  research,  and it  should  be  coordinated  between  the                                                            
University  and other state  and federal  departments. He  commented                                                            
that the departments should  be coordinating with each other and not                                                            
duplicating  efforts. He  stressed  that the  Department strives  to                                                            
approach  the expenditure of  these kinds of  funds in a  thoughtful                                                            
manner and address the  most pressing needs. He noted the Department                                                            
could do a  presentation to the Committee  to talk about  setting in                                                            
place a comprehensive approach  designed to address projects so that                                                            
"we know and you know what  is going on, who's doing what in regards                                                            
to research,  how it all  fits together"  and other components  that                                                            
pertain to a project.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  reiterated  the importance  of  having  detailed                                                            
plans  before a  project begins  so that  legislators  know what  is                                                            
going on. He stated there  should be a breakdown for future projects                                                            
as well  as a  summary on  the FY  01 $14 million  federal  research                                                            
money.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Brooks  clarified  that the $14  million was  actually for  this                                                            
year. He stated  that the first requirement  of the FY 01  funds was                                                            
the establishment  of a  memorandum of  understanding (MOU)  between                                                            
the state and  federal entities. He stated this MOU  did not require                                                            
a  lot of  time  and money,  but  was  a necessary  first  step.  He                                                            
detailed several items  in the project that were required by federal                                                            
language  pertaining to such  things as habitat  and restoration  of                                                            
fisheries stocks.  He informed that these steps are  just now coming                                                            
together  and  the research  would  be starting  with  the  upcoming                                                            
season.  He  stated  this  phase  of  the  project  is  setting  the                                                            
necessary  benchmark for  how the $18  million FY  02 funds  will be                                                            
used.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly commented  that  Senator  Austerman  has asked  some                                                            
important questions,  and even though  these are federal  funds, the                                                            
project  should be  looked at  closely  in order  to understand  the                                                            
overall  picture.  He stated  that any  information  the  Department                                                            
could supply the Committee would be appreciated.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked Mr.  Brooks to provide  a financial  report                                                            
detailing  receipts and expenditures  of the  FY 01 budget  in order                                                            
for the Committee  to have a "better  feel for what is really  going                                                            
on." He  stated he  would prefer  a financial  report rather  than a                                                            
verbalization.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks responded  that  he would  provide a  to-date  financial                                                            
report to each member.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  noted it is important  to look at the items  that are                                                            
in Department  of Fish and Game's  budget, but it is also  important                                                            
"to notice  what is  not in it."  She detailed  that there are  vast                                                            
areas  of the state  not  getting any  money for  research or  sonar                                                            
equipment.  She acknowledged  that federal  funds come with  clearly                                                            
defined areas  of use, but she feels there is a "great  omission" of                                                            
items in the overall balance of the budget.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly commented  this  might be  because of  a small  $100                                                            
million  general fund  capital budget  as well as  the federal  fund                                                            
directives.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Brooks commented  that  most  of the  federal funds  go  toward                                                            
projects around Coastal  communities; however the Department of Fish                                                            
and Game has  designated $45 to $50  million operating budget  funds                                                            
on sport fishing and wildlife programs in other areas.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman   commented  the  funds  for  this   project  are                                                            
specifically  given  to Southeast  Alaska  because  of the  Canadian                                                            
treaty.  He stated that  the Department  of Fish  and Game needs  to                                                            
focus on  the loss  of habitat in  the Mat-Su  valley caused  by the                                                            
population  growth in that  area. He stressed  that the Legislature                                                             
and the  Department  of Fish  and Game  need to  address the  Mat-Su                                                            
situation as the loss of habitat is getting to a critical point.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  supported Senator Austerman's comments,  and that the                                                            
purpose  of these  funds is  to address  the salmon  returns in  the                                                            
Pacific Northwest.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly stressed that  Senator Green  was not implying  that                                                            
the  state  use  these  federal  funds  differently,  but  that  her                                                            
comments  were to address  the need to direct  state funds  to other                                                            
areas of  the state.  He commented  that when  the state approves  a                                                            
"capital  budget  that  is  too  small,  we are  not,  as  a  state,                                                            
directing  the dollars  the way  we want  to, we're  relying on  the                                                            
federal  government and  other programs  to direct  our money  where                                                            
they want to."                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     AccuVote System - Payment 4 of 6                                                                                           
     $387,789 General Fund                                                                                                      
     Reference No.:  6712                                                                                                       
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Information Systems                                                                                         
     Category:  Public Support Technology/Service                                                                               
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2004                                                                          
     The  Division of  Elections purchased  the  new statewide  vote                                                            
     tabulation  system, AccuVote,  with a  six-year lease  purchase                                                            
     plan.   The  payments  began  in FY1999  and  continue  through                                                            
     FY2004.    This  request  is for  the  system's  fourth  annual                                                            
     payment.                                                                                                                   
     Phased project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Expansion of AccuVote Elections System                                                                                     
     $298,600 General Fund                                                                                                      
     Reference No.:  AMD34852                                                                                                   
     AP/AL: Appropriation                                                                                                       
     Project Type:  Equipment                                                                                                   
     Category: Public Support Technology/Service                                                                                
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District: Statewide                                                                                               
     Estimated Project Dates: 07/01/2001-06/30/2006                                                                             
     Purchase 44 AccuVote  units and essential components to provide                                                            
     early  voting units  where needed, additional  units for  split                                                            
     precincts, and automate  an additional 23 hand-count precincts,                                                            
     for a total 302 electronic AccuVote tabulation precincts.                                                                  
     One-Time project                                                                                                           
     Amendment                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MICHAEL NIZICH, Administrative  Director, Division of Administrative                                                            
Services,  Office of the  Governor, informed  the Committee  that in                                                            
1998,  the  Division  of  Elections  purchased  the  automated  vote                                                            
tabulation  system  called AccuVote  on  a six-year  lease  purchase                                                            
plan. He said  this request reflects  the fourth annual payment  for                                                            
that system.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green asked  if there  is any  federal  assistance to  help                                                            
recoup any of these costs.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
GAIL FENUMIAI,  Election Program Specialist, Division  of Elections,                                                            
Office of the  Lieutenant Governor, replied that several  plans deal                                                            
with  election  reform,  and some  involve  federal  matching  grant                                                            
programs. She  stated that she is  not sure if any of the  plans are                                                            
retroactive.  She continued  that the Division  would watch  for any                                                            
federal  funding  opportunity to  further  the disbursement  of  the                                                            
AccuVote system throughout the state.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  asked how  many areas of  the state would  have the                                                            
AccuVote system by the end of FY 04.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fenumiai  responded  that if  the additional  units included  in                                                            
this funding request were  approved, approximately 304 precincts out                                                            
of 451 would have the AccuVote system.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked if this coverage  is the Department's  goal or                                                            
would additional funding be requested.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fenumiai  stated this  request phases  in another 23  precincts;                                                            
however, it would be good to have more.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  stated he did not  think "the state would  ever have                                                            
AccuVote in every region."  He inquired what the "cut off point" is.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fenumiai  replied  that the Division  does not  have a  definite                                                            
plan as to where  it would stop. She stated that the  Division would                                                            
like to  increase the  number of  systems in  the communities  where                                                            
there  is cooperation  from  the city  clerks' offices  because  the                                                            
Division relies  on the city clerks to store, maintain  and test the                                                            
units when  not in  use. She  summarized that  the AccuVote  systems                                                            
would be under  annual review to monitor  population statistics  and                                                            
voter turnout.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  suggested the Division  work on projecting  what the                                                            
distribution goal might  be, as it would be a good thing to know. He                                                            
added this information  might be "good justification"  for this sort                                                            
of request.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fenumiai responded that the Division would work on a plan.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman asked  for  a by-year  summary of  which  precincts                                                            
would be getting the AccuVote system.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Nizich responded  that  information would  be  supplied to  the                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  asked  if the  Division  could  provide  further                                                            
details regarding the total  number of precincts having the AccuVote                                                            
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Fenumiai explained  that currently 281 precincts  out of 481 use                                                            
this  automated  system and  the  remaining  170 precincts  do  hand                                                            
counts.  This  project will  allow  an additional  23  precincts  to                                                            
convert from  hand counting  to the automated  system, bringing  the                                                            
total number to 304.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Americans with Disabilities Act Compliance Projects                                                                        
     $500,000 General Fund                                                                                                      
     Reference No.:  6391                                                                                                       
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Renovation and Remodeling                                                                                   
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This  project continues  the  removal of  physical barriers  to                                                            
     persons  with  disabilities within  state-owned  facilities  as                                                            
     required  by Title II of the  Americans with Disabilities  Act,                                                            
     Public  Law  101-336.    Funding covers  the  cost  of  design,                                                            
     project  administration,  and  construction.   Aside  from  the                                                            
     legal  requirements, removal  of physical barriers will  negate                                                            
     the  need  for   temporary  program  modifications   which  are                                                            
     currently  required of  the facilities'  occupants.  Office  of                                                            
     Management  and  Budget  allocates  available  funding  to  the                                                            
     Department of Transportation  for state facility ADA compliance                                                            
     projects  based  upon  DOT's  prioritized  project list.    The                                                            
     requested  FY2002 funds will  continue work on the Wood  Center                                                            
     in Fairbanks.                                                                                                              
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Nizich  stated  that  continuing  efforts  are  being  made  to                                                            
renovate  and remodel  state facilities,  based on  a Department  of                                                            
Transportation and Public  Facilities priority list. He stated FY 01                                                            
funds went  toward the University  of Alaska Fairbanks Wood  Center,                                                            
and FY  02 funds  would  complete the  Center's  work including  the                                                            
installation  of an  elevator. He  stated that  additionally,  FY 02                                                            
funds would  be used to upgrade the  physical education facility  at                                                            
University of Alaska Anchorage.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  questioned how the  elevator being installed  at the                                                            
Wood  Center could  also serve  Constitutional  Hall  at the  Campus                                                            
complex, as they are not connected.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Nizich stated  that the elevator placement information  supplied                                                            
to him must be incorrect.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  acknowledged that  the Department is working  toward                                                            
fulfilling  a  federal  mandate,  and  inquired  as  to  when  these                                                            
appropriation   requests  might  end.  He  asked  if   the  projects                                                            
specified on the backup information had been completed.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Nizich replied that some of the projects had been completed.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  stated that between  $250,000 and $500,000  has been                                                            
spent  on compliance  upgrades  for  approximately  seven years.  He                                                            
asked if there is a plan with the status of these projects.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Nizich  commented  that the  only  plan  is the  Department  of                                                            
Transportation and Public  Facilities priority list that is included                                                            
with this request.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  clarified that the list contains projects  yet to be                                                            
done.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Nizich responded that is correct.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly replied  that he thought this was a list of completed                                                            
projects.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Nizich  explained  that  the  years in  the  left  hand  column                                                            
indicate the project  was done in that particular  year; if there is                                                            
no year in the left hand  column, that project is yet to be done. He                                                            
informed that projects are prioritized by a point system.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Nizich  stated the list  could be presented  a different  way if                                                            
the Committee refers.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly responded that the list is fine as presented.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman noted  if projects  are assigned  priority using  a                                                            
point system,  then the higher the  points the higher the  priority.                                                            
He stated  that some high  priority projects  appeared to have  been                                                            
"skipped over" and asked why that occurs.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Nizich  responded  the Department  follows  the priority  rating                                                            
system  to a degree;  however,  if the  Department is  working  on a                                                            
particular  project and there is money  left over when that  project                                                            
is done,  the "Department  will look  at the list  and pick  another                                                            
project they can accomplish with those leftover funds."                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  inquired if the state  is held to the same  standards                                                            
as  private business  in  that  it cannot  do  significant  interior                                                            
remodeling  without addressing the  Americans With Disabilities  Act                                                            
(ADA).                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Nizich  responded that if a remodel  project is done,  the state                                                            
is obligated to make sure  that ADA requirements are covered in that                                                            
project.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  clarified that the  ADA applies to state facilities.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Nizich responded that it does.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Green expressed  that ADA  requirements  become a  critical                                                            
part of the decision making when addressing these projects.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked what Mr.  Nizich about moving this  project                                                            
out of  the governor's budget  and into the  Department of  Fish and                                                            
Game budget.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Nizich  responded  that  the  reason  the  funding  is  in  the                                                            
governor's  budget is because federal  legislation dictates  that is                                                            
where it should be received  by the states of Alaska, California and                                                            
Texas.   He  continued  that the  governor's  office  would have  to                                                            
administer  a Reimbursable  Services  Agreement (RSA)  to move  this                                                            
funding from  the governor's  office to the  Department of  Fish and                                                            
Game.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  commented that once  these funds are received,  they                                                            
could be moved every year.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Department of Labor                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Home Modification for Individuals with Disabilities                                                                        
     $150,000 Alaska Housing Finance Corporation (AHFC) Dividend                                                                
     Reference No.:  33945                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Housing/Social Services                                                                                         
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This  funding  will  be  used for  individuals  who  need  home                                                            
     modifications  as part of their Individual Plan  for Employment                                                            
     (IPE).  The  services included on the IPE are  needed to assist                                                            
     the individual to get a job.                                                                                               
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REMOND HENDERSON,  Director,  Division of  Administrative  Services,                                                            
Department  of  Labor   and  Workforce  Development,   informed  the                                                            
Committee these  funds are used for  individuals classified  as most                                                            
severely disabled  with "serious chronic limitations  in two or more                                                            
functional  capacity areas  and need  at least  two core  vocational                                                            
rehabilitation  services  over a period  of at least  6 months."  He                                                            
detailed the funding history and expenditures.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator Green  asked if these  projects "tie  into the mini  grants"                                                            
that  come through  the Department  of  Health and  Social  Services                                                            
developmentally disabled funds.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson responded these are stand-alone requests.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman inquired  if there is a proposed switch in funding for                                                            
this project.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson  replied that  the funding would  switch to a  general                                                            
fund request in FY 03,  FY 04, FY 05 and FY 06 and the request would                                                            
increase to $250,000.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  asked why  these funding requests  would switch  from                                                            
AHFG to general funds.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson  said that  the Office of Management  and Budget  made                                                            
this decision  because they were looking at the amount  of dividends                                                            
that might be  available to the Alaska Housing Finance  Corporation.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman requested  the  Department  to take  another look  at                                                            
future funding.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly stated  that perhaps  the funding  switched at  this                                                            
point  in time  because  the AHFC  dividend  is not  "guaranteed  to                                                            
always be available."                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     Assistive Technology Loan Fund                                                                                             
     $100,000  General Fund                                                                                                     
     Reference  No.:  33944                                                                                                     
     AP/AL:   Appropriation                                                                                                     
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2002                                                                          
     State  funds are requested to  supplement the federal  funds in                                                            
     the  Assistive Technology  Loan Fund (ATLF).   This will  allow                                                            
     the  ATLF  to  continue  its  collaboration  with  the  banking                                                            
     partner(s)    providing   assistance   to   individuals    with                                                            
     disabilities   in  need  of  loans  for  assistive   technology                                                            
     devices.    The ATFC  was  created to  allow  individuals  with                                                            
     disabilities  greater access  to assistive technology  devices.                                                            
     The equipment  or device purchased  enables the individuals  to                                                            
     maintain employment or to live more independently.                                                                         
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr.  Henderson stated  this  program  was established  with  federal                                                            
funds and the  program is set up to allow qualifying  individuals to                                                            
apply for  commercial loans  from banks that  are subsidized  or the                                                            
money is used to guarantee  up to 9 percent of the loan. He detailed                                                            
the  criteria used  for determining  eligibility  for  the loan.  He                                                            
noted that the  criteria would not allow for coverage  of technology                                                            
that is covered by Medicaid or Medicare.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked if this project serves the same  population as                                                            
the prior project, reference # 33945.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson responded  that it does not, as the Home Modifications                                                            
for  Individuals  with  Disabilities  covered  people who  are  most                                                            
severely  disabled  while  this request  covers  both  disabled  and                                                            
severely disabled.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly asked what the loan average is per year.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson  stated that the average loan amount  is approximately                                                            
$21,000.  He continued  that  during  the program's  existence,  the                                                            
total amount  that has been guaranteed  is $222,000 with  an average                                                            
interest rate of 5.56 percent.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly asked when the program was started.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Henderson said the program began in 1997.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Department of Health and Social Services                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Deferred Maintenance, Renewal, Replacement, and Equipment                                                                  
     $1,352,000                                                                                                                 
          $352,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                             
          $1,000,000 General Fund                                                                                               
     Reference No.:  31862                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Funds deferred  maintenance at 35 state-owned  buildings with a                                                            
     replacement  value  of  $224.3  million,  along  with  selected                                                            
     leased   facilities,   including   urgent   immediate   repair,                                                            
     renovation  and equipment needs.   Delay in funding  will cause                                                            
     additional   deterioration  of  the  Department's  facilities.                                                             
     Urgent  repairs  and deferred  maintenance  cannot  be  delayed                                                            
     continually without  adversely affecting the State's investment                                                            
     in its facilities.                                                                                                         
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
JANET  CLARKE,  Director,   Division  of  Administrative   Services,                                                            
Department  of Health  and Social  Services informed  the  Committee                                                            
this  is an annual  deferred  maintenance/replacement  request.  She                                                            
detailed  the projects that  have been identified  and referred  the                                                            
Committee members  to the list of specific projects  included in the                                                            
request,  and  noted   the  inclusion  of  photographs   of  various                                                            
projects.  She  informed  the  Committee   the  projects  have  been                                                            
prioritized   by  life/health  safety,   building  integrity,   code                                                            
compliance or mission deficiencies.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke explained a few of the photographs.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Austerman  asked  how  the funding  for  the  projects  was                                                            
prioritized.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  responded that the projects  are presented in  the order                                                            
the Department  would like them repaired,  and noted there  is not a                                                            
picture of  every project.  She remarked  that this funding  request                                                            
would not cover every project on the list.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly asked which projects would be funded.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke specified the cutoff point on the list of projects.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly noted these  projects met  the established  criteria                                                            
and asked about the projects that were not going to be funded.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  responded that the Department  had significant  deferred                                                            
maintenance  needs in  its facilities  and "they  just can't  get to                                                            
them all."                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  stated that the  photographs reflect  the true  state of                                                            
the facilities  and  informed that  all facilities  are reviewed  in                                                            
order  to determine  the  most  pressing  needs. She  expressed  the                                                            
Department  has  not received  enough  money to  deal  with all  the                                                            
deferred  maintenance issues  so the "backlog  keeps building."  She                                                            
commented  the "Department  would like to do  more, but can  only do                                                            
what the legislature approves."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly  asked how the pictures  correspond to the  projects.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke informed,  for instance, that photograph  19 depicted the                                                            
carpet  at the McLaughlin  Youth Center,  the last  of the  projects                                                            
these  funds  would  cover.  She  commented   that  although  carpet                                                            
replacement  does not appear  to be a life/health  issue it  is when                                                            
there are "a lot  of juveniles in a 24-hour facility"  and liability                                                            
issues enter the situation.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Leman observed  this  list of  items contains  things  that                                                            
could be considered to  be routine maintenance. He cited that boiler                                                            
replacement and  roof repairs "should be done on an  ongoing basis."                                                            
He questioned why these types of projects appear on this list.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke replied that  this is the result of the Department having                                                            
"very little discretionary  money;" a situation that does not permit                                                            
the Department to perform routine ongoing maintenance.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Alaska Psychiatric Institute Replacement                                                                                   
     $36,550,000 Lease Bond                                                                                                     
     Reference No.:  AMD34884                                                                                                   
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Anchorage Areawide                                                                                              
     Election District:  Anchorage Areawide                                                                                     
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     The  Alaska Psychiatric  Institute has  reached the end  of its                                                            
     useful  life, is filled  with hazardous  asbestos, and  must be                                                            
     replaced.  This appropriation  will provide the remaining funds                                                            
     of $36,550,000  necessary to  complete construction  of the new                                                            
     Alaska Psychiatric Institute facility.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  noted this is an amendment  and is for information  only                                                            
regarding  a  project  the governor's   office has  put  forward  to                                                            
replace the  Alaska Psychiatric Institute  (API). She informed  this                                                            
request is related to SB 96.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly commented that further discussion regarding API                                                                  
would take place when the Committee receives SB 96.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked if there is legislation that reflects this                                                              
amount of money.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Kelly commented that there is a bond authorization.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     Public  Health Nurse, Probation  Officer, Social Worker  Safety                                                            
     and Support Equipment                                                                                                      
     $2,831,000                                                                                                                 
          $2,331,000 Federal Receipts                                                                                           
          $500,000 General Fund                                                                                                 
     Reference No.:  32446                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Equipment                                                                                                   
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Project  would provide funds  for critical equipment  needed by                                                            
     Department to enhance  security, improve program efficiency and                                                            
     replace aging  or dysfunctional equipment for  the Department's                                                            
     statewide  operations.    There  is  an urgent  need  for  this                                                            
     equipment  so that  Family and  Youth Service  social  workers,                                                            
     Juvenile  Justice detention and  probation officers  and Public                                                            
     Health nurses can  perform their duties safely and effectively.                                                            
     Failure  to fund some equipment  purchases will mean  that they                                                            
     may  not be able to  do their job or  may be placed in  danger.                                                            
     In any case, delays in procurement of needed equipment will                                                                
     mean that workers will not be able to do their job as well as                                                              
     they should and could.                                                                                                     
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  informed that  Senator Stevens  secured $2.2 million  in                                                            
federal  funds  to  provide  additional  equipment  for  the  health                                                            
laboratory  that recently  opened in Anchorage.  She continued  that                                                            
many of the  equipment budgets within  the Department have  not been                                                            
adequately   funded   to   deal   with   safety    issues,   ongoing                                                            
transportation  needs, and clinical  equipment. She noted  that much                                                            
of the back up  information in this request deals  with vehicles and                                                            
a shortage of  vehicles for field staff. She informed  the Committee                                                            
that the  Department has  done a  vehicle analysis  to see what  the                                                            
staff-vehicle  ratio is in a number  of areas. She said the  results                                                            
indicated the area of need is in the "direct field staff."                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SFC 01 # 33, Side A 10:41 AM                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke noted  there is a 12.6 staff person to  one vehicle ratio                                                            
in the Anchorage  area, and that this  information is summarized  on                                                            
page 14  of the hand  out. She  stressed this  is a serious  problem                                                            
when staff  needs to  conduct home  visits or go  to court or  other                                                            
situations  as they occur.  She stated liability  issues occur  when                                                            
staff  uses their  own  vehicle on  state  business.  She said  this                                                            
request would  add three vehicles  in the Anchorage area,  and noted                                                            
similar problems in other areas of the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke stated that  the Juvenile Justice Division portion of the                                                            
request relates  to safety-security improvements.  She informed that                                                            
in many of  the Department's "small  non-urban" area offices,  there                                                            
are security  concerns. She  informed that  the Department  plans to                                                            
build  access  control  security  barriers  in  those  offices.  She                                                            
referred to the back up information on page 14.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  continued  that  page  15 states  the  need  again  for                                                            
additional vehicles  for public health nurses. She  noted, while the                                                            
staff to vehicle  ratio was lower  in this field, the vehicles  were                                                            
old and in need of replacement.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  stressed the  need for state  vehicle reliability  as it                                                            
affects liability concerns.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman commented  the average cost for each of these vehicles                                                            
appears to be $29,000, and they are probably 4-wheel drive.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke that is correct.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  asked if the Department  has looked at other  options                                                            
such as previously owned vehicles to lower this cost.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke responded that  a used vehicle would be cheaper, however,                                                            
if one  looks at the state  equipment fleet  fund, $29,000  "is what                                                            
vehicles  cost."  She commented  that  purchases  of this  type  are                                                            
usually handled through  the state equipment fleet. She continued it                                                            
is possible  to go out and lease a  vehicle, but it would  then have                                                            
to be  included  as an ongoing  cost  in the operating  budget.  She                                                            
noted the Department  "has not been successful in  getting operating                                                            
funds for ongoing lease costs."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
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     Juneau  Public Health Center  Heating and Ventilation  Upgrades                                                            
     $585,400                                                                                                                   
          $105,400 Federal Receipts                                                                                             
          $480,000 General Fund                                                                                                 
     Reference No.:  32451                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Southeast Alaska                                                                                                
     Election District:  Districts 1-6                                                                                          
     Purchase  and  installation  of  new  heating  and ventilation                                                             
     (HVAC)  system at  the Juneau  Public Health  Center (JPHC)  to                                                            
     bring the system up  to code, and to increase energy efficiency                                                            
     and  patient and staff  safety.  For  the State to continue  to                                                            
     ignore the  HVAC problems risks an interruption  of services to                                                            
     the public.                                                                                                                
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke commented  this  request had  been submitted  the  prior                                                            
fiscal  year,  but had  not  been  funded; therefore,  it  is  being                                                            
submitted again  this year with more detailed information  about the                                                            
problems  the building  is  experiencing.  Ms. Clarke  informed  the                                                            
Committee this building  was built in 1984 as a doctor's office, and                                                            
was in  foreclosure when  the state purchased  it in 1992,  enabling                                                            
the state  to obtain it at  a good price.  She noted that  the state                                                            
remodeled   it  after  the  purchase;   however,  the  heating   and                                                            
ventilation  system were never upgraded  to meet the demands  of the                                                            
facility.  She commented  that  this request  would  also bring  the                                                            
building up to ADA code.  She referred to several photographs of the                                                            
equipment currently in the building that needs to be replaced.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Residential  Child Care Facility  Capital Needs Assessment  and                                                            
     Grant Program                                                                                                              
     $500,000                                                                                                                   
          $349,800 AHFC Dividend                                                                                                
          $150,200 General Fund                                                                                                 
     Reference No.:  33815                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Renewal and Replacement                                                                                     
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2007                                                                          
     Provides  for a  small needs  assessment in  FY02 and award  of                                                            
     capital grants in  FY02 and beyond for new facilities, deferred                                                            
     maintenance,  ADA upgrades, remodeling and equipment  needs for                                                            
     in-state residential youth care facilities.                                                                                
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  said   this  is  a  new  request,  and  informed   that                                                            
residential  childcare grantees  serve over  200 Division of  Family                                                            
and Youth Services  (DFYS) children,  throughout the state,  who are                                                            
"in state custody  and need a higher  level of structure  and a more                                                            
secure placement"  than is available in the foster  home system. She                                                            
stated these facilities  have not had access to capital  funds for a                                                            
number of years  and the Department  needs to be assured  that these                                                            
children  are in safe  and secure  facilities. She  referred  to the                                                            
summary of  main issues  requests from the  residential group  homes                                                            
that is included  in the backup material (page 21  through page 24).                                                            
She noted that  $55,000 of this request  is earmarked for  a capital                                                            
needs assessment.  She noted  the total of  the summary of  needs is                                                            
double the  total of the request,  so not all of the projects  would                                                            
be able to be done.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  inquired how the  AHFC dividend is identified  in                                                            
this request.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  responded  that  in  this  particular   capital  budget                                                            
request, the governor's office identified this funding.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  clarified these AHFC dividends  are receipts that                                                            
go into the general fund.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Kelly confirmed  that AHFC dividend  receipts are  general                                                            
funds. He opined  that the governor is attaching these  dividends to                                                            
this  project  because  it is  a  housing  project  and that  is  an                                                            
appropriate use of these receipts.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Hoffman commented  on the significant  increase in  general                                                            
fund amounts  after FY  02 and asked  what the  Department would  be                                                            
doing differently.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke responded  the  increased  amounts are  the anticipated                                                             
result of the capital needs assessment.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Emergency  Medical Services Equipment  Grants - Match  for Code                                                            
     Blue Project                                                                                                               
     $533,400 General Fund match                                                                                                
     Reference No.:  33797                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Equipment                                                                                                   
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     EMS  ambulance and  first  responder personnel  need  adequate,                                                            
     reliable emergency  medical equipment and ambulances to provide                                                            
     effective  life-saving  services.    Many  ambulances  and  EMS                                                            
     equipment  were  purchased  with  federal  grants in  the  late                                                            
     1970's and early 1980's.   These vehicles and equipment must be                                                            
     replaced.   Under  a  grant program  administered  by the  U.S.                                                            
     Department  of Agriculture  (USDA),  up to 75%  of the cost  of                                                            
     ambulances   and   medical  equipment   can   be  provided   to                                                            
     communities  who meet certain  financial eligibility  criteria.                                                            
     This  request would  furnish  the remaining  amounts needed  as                                                            
     "matching funds."                                                                                                          
     Phased project                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MATT ANDERSON,  Emergency Medical  Services Unit Manager,  Community                                                            
Health Program,  Department of Health and Social Services,  informed                                                            
the Committee  that this project started several years  ago, and its                                                            
purpose is  to quantify and identify  the unmet needs for  essential                                                            
emergency  medical  services (EMS)  equipment  in rural  Alaska.  He                                                            
stated this  information has  been put in  a database to  prioritize                                                            
and seek funding  for those needs.  He noted that several  different                                                            
potential  funding sources  have been  identified  and this  request                                                            
specifically  would  provide  matching  funds  for a  United  States                                                            
Department  of Agriculture  (USDA)  federal grant.  He detailed  the                                                            
process of  applying for  this application  and that the  Department                                                            
has worked  with local EMS  offices to identify  and prioritize  the                                                            
needs.  He specified  that  the  equipment  needs were  broken  into                                                            
various categories  and the total package of needs  is approximately                                                            
$7 million  with  $3 million  of this  eligible for  the USDA  grant                                                            
project. He specified that  the state match required is $1.6 million                                                            
dollars.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman  asked why the USDG grant-funding  portion was not                                                            
included in the total funds for this request.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke responded that  in this particular case the federal funds                                                            
would not be  coming through the state  but would be going  directly                                                            
to the EMS; therefore they are not reflected in the request.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman asked if  some of the existing equipment scheduled for                                                            
replacement   could  be  reallocated   to  "smaller,  lower   volume                                                            
communities."                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson  stated that  the EMS council  is "very resourceful  in                                                            
doing this;"  however it should be  noted that 41 of 125  ambulances                                                            
are more that  15 years old, and sometimes these older  vehicles end                                                            
up in communities  "that don't have the necessary  infrastructure to                                                            
take care of the  vehicle." He stressed that the council  strives to                                                            
get  only   "very  reliable   equipment"   reallocated  to   smaller                                                            
communities because of the maintenance situation.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  congratulated the EMS  council on their reallocation                                                             
methodology,  and suggested  that state  departments could  consider                                                            
"shifting vehicles around."                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Anderson stressed  how important it is to " match  the equipment                                                            
to the  community" and exampled  that it  would be inappropriate  to                                                            
send an elaborate  $150,000 ambulance  to a small volume  community.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  stated  the  Department  has  reallocated  old  trooper                                                            
vehicles.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
AT EASE 11:01 AM / 11:03 AM                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
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     Alaska Psychiatric Institute Stop-Gas Repairs                                                                              
     $379,500 General Fund/Mental Health (GF/MH)                                                                                
     Reference No.:  33682                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Anchorage Areawide                                                                                              
     Election District:  Anchorage Areawide                                                                                     
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This  is  the Alaska  Psychiatric  Institute's  (API's)  annual                                                            
     "stop gap" facility  maintenance and repair request, as well as                                                            
     a  request for  the funds  to continue  to  make the  fire/life                                                            
     safety  upgrades at  API necessary  to meet  minimal  occupancy                                                            
     standards.   As  long as the  Department's  plan to vacate  the                                                            
     current facility is  delayed, stop gap funds will be necessary.                                                            
     On-going project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke noted this project has been funded for the last ten                                                                  
years, and the Department wished to maintain operations as long as                                                              
possible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Housing Modifications  for Trust Beneficiaries  and People with                                                            
     Disabilities                                                                                                               
     $250,000                                                                                                                   
          $100,000 AHFC Dividend                                                                                                
          $150,000 Mental Health Trust Settlement Income (MHTAAR)                                                               
     Reference No.:  33671                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Renovation and Remodeling                                                                                   
     Category:  Housing/Social Services                                                                                         
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2004                                                                          
     Provides  housing  modifications   to  persons  experiencing  a                                                            
     disability,   allowing  them  to  remain  in  their  homes  and                                                            
     reducing the potential cost of providing supported housing.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke pointed out that this project differs from the                                                                       
Department of Labor and Workforce Development request due to the                                                                
different clients served.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
      Substance Abuse Treatment for Rural Women with Children                                                                   
     $500,000                                                                                                                   
          $250,000 GF/MH                                                                                                        
          $250,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                       
     Reference No.:  33832                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2004                                                                          
     This capital  request facilitates the development  of substance                                                            
     abuse  treatment   for  rural  women  with  children.     These                                                            
     facilities  often  have specialized  building  requirements  to                                                            
     accommodate  children  as  part  of  the treatment   component.                                                            
     Women  with  children  often do  not  enter treatment  if  they                                                            
     believe  their children  are not  safe or that  they will  lose                                                            
     custody  of  their  children.    The  ability  to  bring  their                                                            
     children  with them allows these  women to commit to  treatment                                                            
     without  the  disruption  of  worries  about  their  children's                                                            
     health and safety, or by the pain of separation from them.                                                                 
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke explained  this project is to build treatment  facilities                                                            
for women  with children  from rural Alaska.  She shared that  these                                                            
women  need to  be treated  with discretion,  and  that these  women                                                            
respond better when their children are with them.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Deferred Maintenance,  Americans with Disabilities Improvements                                                            
     to   Service   Providers   for   Beneficiaries,   People   with                                                            
     Disabilities                                                                                                               
     $800,000                                                                                                                   
          $400,000 GF/MH                                                                                                        
          $400,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                       
     Reference No.:  AMD33670                                                                                                   
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Deferred Maintenance                                                                                        
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2007                                                                          
     This   program  will  provide   capital  grants  for   deferred                                                            
     maintenance,  renovation, and  Americans with Disabilities  Act                                                            
     compliance  of  existing  structures   for agencies   providing                                                            
     programs,  services,  and activities  for  Mental Health  Trust                                                            
     beneficiaries  and  people with  disabilities.   Approximately                                                             
     $450.0  of the available funds  will be restricted to  agencies                                                            
     providing   chemical   dependency    treatment   services   for                                                            
     individuals  and families.  The program scope  as determined by                                                            
     the  Alaska Mental Health  Trust Authority  limits projects  to                                                            
     rural Alaska only.                                                                                                         
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     Amendment                                                                                                                  
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke described the clients served by this project and the                                                                 
maintenance and access improvements.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Suicide Prevention and Galena Mental Health Center                                                                         
     $925,000 GF/MH                                                                                                             
     Reference No.:  AMD34882                                                                                                   
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     The suicide  rate in Alaska is  alarming - more than  twice the                                                            
     national  average.  We need to  act immediately to support  the                                                            
     regions  in most  distress  and begin  a process  leading  to a                                                            
     comprehensive suicide prevention plan for all Alaska.                                                                      
     One-time project                                                                                                           
     Amendment                                                                                                                  
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke cited concerns  with the number of suicides in the state.                                                            
She said  these funds  would address  this issue  in communities  by                                                            
providing technical  support and training. She added  that a portion                                                            
of the  funds would  be used to  replace the  current mental  health                                                            
facility  in Galena.  She detailed  the multitude  of problems  with                                                            
this trailer-type facility.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Austerman asked why Galena was selected.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  replied that the mental  health board selected  the site                                                            
as part  of its efforts  to identify the  small communities  in most                                                            
need.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  asked if the new building's  location would  be above                                                            
flood stage.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke replied that is the understanding.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Senator Leman  asked if the air force facilities in  Galena would be                                                            
closed.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke replied she would check with the city of Galena.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Developmental Disabilities Systems Reform Initiative                                                                       
     $750,000 GF/MH                                                                                                             
     Reference No.:  AMD34885                                                                                                   
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Health and Safety                                                                                           
     Category:  Housing/Social Services                                                                                         
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Alaska's rank in community services fiscal effort (spending                                                                
     for services per $1,000 of total state personal income) has                                                                
                               thst                                                                                             
     declined  steadily from 14   in 1977 to  31  in 1998.   Many of                                                            
     the most  common initiatives for reducing state  wait lists are                                                            
     either  underway or are  no longer available  in Alaska.   This                                                            
     situation cannot continue.                                                                                                 
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  indicated that  the Department  has done a great  job in                                                            
getting people  off of Medicaid; however,  insufficient funding  may                                                            
not provide enough cash  flow to assist people still on the waitlist                                                            
for  community services.  She  informed  that procedures  have  been                                                            
established  to  lower  billing errors  in  Medicaid  and  eliminate                                                            
duplication.  She stated that non-profit  entities that have  relied                                                            
on grants now rely on third  party billing by Medicaid; however they                                                            
have not been  given the tools to  use this new system effectively.                                                             
She  stated this  project  would provide  the  tools  to assist  the                                                            
grantees so they can be solvent.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Program  Equipment   Grants  to  Service  Providers  for  Trust                                                            
     Beneficiaries and People with Disabilities                                                                                 
     $250,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                            
     Reference No.:  33672                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Equipment                                                                                                   
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2007                                                                          
     This  capital project  will support  competitive capital  grant                                                            
     funding to  allow providers to meet program facility  equipment                                                            
     needs  for  beneficiary  service providers  and  providers  for                                                            
     people   with  physical  disabilities.     Proposals   will  be                                                            
     solicited from service  providers to improve operations through                                                            
     improved efficiency.                                                                                                       
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     Mental Health bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke  informed  the Committee  this project  is funded  by the                                                            
Mental Health Trust Authority.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     Recovery Camp                                                                                                              
     $100,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                            
     Reference No.:  33677                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2004                                                                          
     This project  funds the capital portion of the  Family Recovery                                                            
     Camp  Development  Project.  It  is designed  to replicate  the                                                            
     success  of culturally  based  family treatment  that has  been                                                            
     provided  at  Old Minto  Spirit  Camp for  a number  of  years.                                                            
     These  replications will occur  in other regions of  the state.                                                            
     FY2001 is year one of a three-year project.                                                                                
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  noted that  this  project  would  be helpful  in  rural                                                            
Alaska.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Hearing Screening Assistive Technology                                                                                     
     $100,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                            
     Reference No.:  34044                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Equipment                                                                                                   
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Provides funds to purchase a limited number of high-end (cost-                                                             
     wise) hearing devices for loan to families of infants and                                                                  
     toddlers diagnosed as hard of hearing.                                                                                     
     One-time project                                                                                                           
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke informed the  Committee that this project is specifically                                                            
for costly  digital hearing devises  and stressed that, "typically,                                                             
insurance  does not cover  these costs." She  noted it is  important                                                            
for  infants  and  young  children  to  have  their  hearing  issues                                                            
addressed early. She stated  this program allows for hearing devices                                                            
to be loaned for a six-month  period to allow for families and young                                                            
children to have an early  adjustment period during which they would                                                            
work with audiologist to assess the child's situation.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Consumer Designed and Managed Projects                                                                                     
     $175,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                            
     Reference No.:  34042                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Construction                                                                                                
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     As  consumers' involvement  and control  over service  delivery                                                            
     strengthens,  the opportunity  for consumers to do the  same in                                                            
     the area of capital  projects is appropriate.  Several consumer                                                            
     groups made such proposals.                                                                                                
     One-time project                                                                                                           
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke stated  this  project  would  assist those  with  mental                                                            
illness.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Micro Enterprise Funds                                                                                                     
     $150,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                            
     Reference No.:  34043                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Equipment                                                                                                   
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Provides  funds  to purchase  start-up  equipment  and  working                                                            
     capital  for beneficiaries  who want  to be self-employed;  for                                                            
     service  providers  to  establish small  businesses  to  employ                                                            
     beneficiaries   and  for  private  enterprises   interested  in                                                            
     expanding    their   businesses   in   exchange    for   hiring                                                            
     beneficiaries.                                                                                                             
     One-time project                                                                                                           
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Provider Resource Sharing and Coordination                                                                                 
     $150,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                            
     Reference No.:  34039                                                                                                      
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Planning                                                                                                    
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Statewide                                                                                                       
     Election District:  Statewide                                                                                              
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     Provides   funds  for   a  five-year   capital  initiative   to                                                            
     reengineer the way  the State awards funds to providers and the                                                            
     way  providers  conduct business,  including  coordination  and                                                            
     resource sharing,  allowing them to focus on providing services                                                            
     for individuals and families.                                                                                              
     On-going project                                                                                                           
     Mental Health Bill                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Clarke  said  these  two  projects   look  "at  all  the  ways"                                                            
individuals with  disabilities could conduct a business.  She stated                                                            
that the program  would help streamline the ways that  grant dollars                                                            
become available.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     MH Urban Transition Housing Facility                                                                                       
     $200,000 MHTAAR                                                                                                            
     Reference No.:  AMD34041                                                                                                   
     AP/AL:  Appropriation                                                                                                      
     Project Type:  Transitional                                                                                                
     Category:  Health/Safety                                                                                                   
     Location:  Anchorage Areawide                                                                                              
     Election District:  Anchorage Areawide                                                                                     
     Estimated Project Dates:  07/01/2001 - 06/30/2006                                                                          
     This project  would leverage renovation and purchase  costs for                                                            
     a  transitional  housing  facility  for  the clients  of  urban                                                            
     nonprofit organizations.                                                                                                   
     One-time project                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Clarke stated this project would provide housing for people                                                                 
with mental disabilities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Pete Kelly adjourned the meeting at 11:22 AM                                                                           

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